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December 1, 2009

CityCenter: First Component, Vdara Opens

Posted by Hunter

Tomorrow morning, the first component of CityCenter, the Vdara condo-hotel, will open for paying customers. There's a party tonight that I'll unfortunately be missing - a charity shindig for the Sebastian Copeland Foundation.

Some info on Vdara and the Silk Road restaurant:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/vdara-hotel-is-first-to-open-kicking-off-citycenter-78206222.html

Thursday will see the opening of The Crystals retail mall and then Friday, Mandarin Oriental - this is a big week for the project.

One important aspect is traffic flow and the Sun has a story, with diagrams, of how it all works:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/dec/01/ins-and-outs-citycenter/



Comments

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December 1, 2009 10:50 AM Posted by parchedearth

Interesting comments that because Vdara is condo and they cannot rent out units until closed (which won't take place until March) that they are only planning on having 600 rooms (out of 1400) available by NYE. I'm not sure how to interpret this, but I think this means some of the units (less than 600) are now designated as hotel only (and will never be sold) and they are currently working on closing some units. I wonder if there is even a residential option for people to live in their units.

Also, does anyone know if there is an entrance to Vdara (or Aria) from Frank Sinatra drive? (Can you get onto Harmon from Sinatra?)

December 1, 2009 10:54 AM Posted by Hunter

Yes, easy access to Vdara and ARIA from Harmon.

December 1, 2009 12:41 PM Posted by Dave

Hey guys--I just got back from the opening and will have more as soon as I get up to speed here. It was something else.

December 1, 2009 3:05 PM Posted by mike_ch

Boy, the condo thing sure messed the Strip up, huh?

I'll be spending a few months in Vegas starting right about when Aria opens. It'll probably take me a week just to catch up on both CityCenter, Encore, and the walled up stuff I was catching before.

December 1, 2009 4:15 PM Posted by Andy in MSP

Interesting that the only self-park garage directly serving City Center is the small one behind MO. Although, I guess that's why they built that massive guest/employee garage behind Monte Carlo.

Sounds like they're banking on a lot of valet users so there must be a lot of underground valet lots?

December 1, 2009 4:17 PM Posted by Hunter

Yes, a ton of underground valet parking.

December 1, 2009 4:56 PM Posted by detroit1051

I never knew valet parking was so high tech, but with 17,000 underground spaces, it has to be.
http://www.parking-net.com/News/31602/Valet-Parking-and-Bell-Desk-System-automation-needs-are-met-by-Service-Tracking-Systems-at-the-CityCenter-in-Las-Vegas

December 1, 2009 8:00 PM Posted by Brian Fey

17,000 underground spaces? Where did this number come from? There is a ton of underground parking at CC, but no way it can be enough for 17,000.

December 1, 2009 8:59 PM Posted by mike_ch

I would strongly doubt 17,000 spaces. That would make it far and away the largest parking structure in the world.

To compare, Sea-Tac has the biggest single garage at the moment with 13,000 spaces, Epcot Center is an enormous piece of property and it's huge surface lot is about 12,000. I think Magic Kingdom is also that size and they found it so big that they built it on the other side of the lake so that people wouldn't walk outside and be smacked in the face with a ton of cars.

That much at CityCenter, especially JUST for valet, would be ridiculous. Especially what with the big Monte Carlo garage just nearby and Bellagio always having had more valet than is really necessary (almost as many spots as they have rooms).

December 1, 2009 9:01 PM Posted by Hunter

We were told that the CityCenter self-park garage, next to MO, has 11,000 spaces.

December 2, 2009 4:37 AM Posted by detroit1051

17,000 underground parking spaces:
I deleted this link from my original comment because it was so long. I can't vouch for it, but the authors' credibility made me believe it to be true:
http://books.google.com/books?id=YZwm_dzxSmcC&pg=PT46&lpg=PT46&dq=underground+parking+spaces,+citycenter+las+vegas&source=bl&ots=FxhZxa9ags&sig=0-NS8xO0ZD8walVGIAWO5N8MW0s&hl=en&ei=n1wWS-SYMYeXtgfi2In5BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=underground%20parking%20spaces%2C%20citycenter%20las%20vegas&f=false

December 2, 2009 1:56 PM Posted by sbpewsaw

Hey guys i was just wondering if anyone has seen or heard anything about Haze, Aria's new nightclub. I haven't seen much info about it even on the Light Groups website. Thanks!

December 2, 2009 5:31 PM Posted by GregoryZephyr

It's hard for me to believe they have that much parking but it's not out of the realm of possibility, either. If you figure an average space is 9'x11' and add another 25% to account for ramps, driving lanes, etc. then 17,000 spaces would equal 2.1 million sqaure feet which I think translates to about 48 acres. So, if 2/3rds of CC's surface area included one level of parking below grade, they could have that much parking. And that assumes a single level. If it is several levels under each building they'd need less space.

December 3, 2009 12:24 AM Posted by Mike E

sbpewsaw, did you ever come across this article? http://www.vegastripping.com/news/news.php?news_id=3002